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Physician-Patient Encounters – The Physician Perspective
Michael Stearns, MD, CPC
HIT Consultant
High Level Physician Goals
- Develop a rapport with the patient
- Establish credibility with the patient
- Establish the reliability of the patient
- Gather information
- From the history
- From the examination
- From test results
- From reports from other providers
- Get through the examination efficiently
- Get paid, if surgical get cases…
- Don’t get sued
- Don’t become subjected to a negative audit
- Have the patient say good things about you in the community, in particular to the physician who referred the patient to you.
Develop a rapport with the patient
- Polite and professional
- Not too reserved
- Not too friendly
- Appear knowledgeable
- Patient may know more about a disease than you do after, for example, performing on-line research
- Keep the patient on task, but interrupt them as little as possible
- Can be very challenging…
Establish Credibility with the Patient
- Be a good listener
- EHRs can interfere with this process
- Demonstrate familiarity with their complaints and ask insightful questions
- Communication in a way they can easily understand, without coming across as patronizing
Establish the Reliability of the Patient
- Need, in some cases to identify how to interpret information you are provided
- Secondary gain such as what may be seen in a disability payment
- Psychological issues
- Embellishment tied to :
- Fears that underlying condition is serious in nature
- Fears that they will not be taken seriously unless they “amplify” the severity of their symptoms
Prioritize Nature of Visit
- Use the history, physical and the results of diagnostic studies to form an impression of what might be influencing the patient’s health
- Identify potential emergent conditions
- Focus on conditions that can be treated first
- Be very wary of making assumptions that could lead to misdiagnosis
Chief Complaint
- Typically a brief statement that starts the note
- Includes:
- Background demographics
- Some background medical information
- Reason they are being seen, often in the patient’s own words
- For example:
- The patient is a 44-year-old white male with a history of hypertension and diabetes who presents with “numbness in my toes.”
- There are wide number of variation as to how this is structured
- Documentation guidelines (for reimbursement) state that a CC must be present, but it can be part of the HPI.
History of Present Illness
- Basically the story behind the visit
- 80% of the diagnosis comes from the HPI
- Iterative process
- Series of questions and answers
- Follows logical course
- Requires expert knowledge of how diseases present
- Physician may develop a short list of diagnoses (in their mind) that he/she is considering
- Responses to questions drive next question
- Somewhat algorithmic
- Eliminate some conditions
- Confirm others
- Gives weighting to certain conditions over others in many cases
- Somewhat algorithmic
- Eliminate some conditions
- Confirm others
- >Gives weighting to certain conditions over others in many cases
- May include relevant past medical information
- Relevant medications
- Responses to prior treatments
- Underlying diseases
- Prior injuries or events (e.g., trauma)
- Family history
- Social history
- Summary of relevant recent events
- Recent hospitalizations
- Recent surgeries
- Prior evaluations by other providers
- Stressors that could influence health
- E.g., Work-related stress
- HPI documentation goals
- Document information for purely clinical use
- Reference notes for point of care use
- Future visits
- Information to be used for care at other locations
- Reference notes for point of care use
- Future visits
- Information to be used for care at other locations
- Medicolegal documentation
- Demonstrate that the standard of care was met via documentation
- Medicolegal documentation
- Demonstrate that the standard of care was met via documentation
- Be wary of template defaults and cloning of information
- Demonstrate that the standard of care was met via documentation
- Be wary of template defaults and cloning of information
- Reimbursement purposes
- HPI heavily influences coding and reimbursement
- Need 1-4 HPI elements OR 3 chronic diseases and their statuses
- Used to determine E&M level of service
The HPI and EHRs
- Enter complex information and overcome natural language challenges
- Free text via voice recognition, typing or other methods one approach
- Loses structured data
- May be offset by NLP and automated coding
- Loses structured data
- May be offset by NLP and automated coding
- Templates/Macros popular in EHRs
- Need to capture as many potential questions as possible through drop down lists with branches
- Huge amount of potential information could be needed
- HPI templates generally are difficult to build
- Well constructed templates have the ability to remind physicians of certain questions that should be asked
- Templates must take into consideration:
- Clinical knowledge to aid with documentation
- Medicolegal considerations
- Were all the relevant questions asked and documented in case the care of the patient was to later be challenged
- Coding and billing questions
- Needs to code for the HPI elements (duration, location, severity, quality, modifying factors, context, associated signs and symptoms and timing)
- Alternative is to have capacity to recognize when three chronic conditions and their statuses are documented
- Template models vary widely between EHR systems
- Usually context specific
- E.g., New patient headache, follow-up diabetes, etc.
- Usually specialty specific
- Very different level of detail may be needed depending on specialty
Past Medical, Family and Social History
- Often the next section of the history and physical (H&P) after HPI
- May be entered by the patient, taken by the MA, or in some cases imported electronically
- Typically reviewed by the provider before they see the patient
- Provider will use information from the section to help with determining the diagnosis
Past Medical History
- Often obtained prior to the patient being seen by the provider and reviewed by the provider before seeing the patient
- Complete history, regardless of relevancy
- Can be labor intensive for patient/staff to record
- Past medical history usually contains:
- Medications
- Allergies
- Current and former illnesses and injuries
- Surgeries
- Hospitalizations
- Immunization History
- Birth History
- Others
Problem List
- Was a separate sheet in the front of paper chart, used in inpatient records and in some specialties
- Has evolved with advent of EHRs to be central component of patient record
- Generally a subset of information from the past medical history, limited to relevant conditions that are currently active
- Use varies markedly
- Central focus of interoperability efforts via CCD
Past Family History
- Can be limited to a screening history of relevant medical conditions in the patient’s family history
- Weighted towards conditions that have known tendency to be passed from one generation to another
- E.g., Huntington’s Disease
- Can have less relevance in elderly patients
- Will take on a great deal of new significance in the genomic medicine era
Social History
- Usually includes:
- Occupation
- Marital History
- Living Situation
- Family members when relevant
- Alcohol Use
- Drug Use
- Sexual History
- Other Social Factors
Provider Considerations for PFSH
- Make sure all relevant information is obtained
- Make sure items that could adversely impact patient care are captured
- Medicolegal considerations (e.g., missed drug allergy)
- Important for decision support applications, like e-prescribing CDS tools
- Needs to be placed into correct sections of EHR to be used for E&M coding
- All three needed for highest coding levels
- Avoid defaults that bring in too much information and falsely elevate coding levels
HIT Considerations for the PFSH
- As compared to the HPI, this section is much more easily “codified”
- More applicable to interoperability
- Medications, problems (usually selected items from the past medical history), allergies and labs are now shared via CCD
- EHRs and other HIT systems have limited capabilities to import and export this data, but this is rapidly evolving
HIT Considerations for the PSFH
- Importing data directly from an HIE or other source needs to be done carefully
- Data can be corrupted
- E.g., wrong code used and then interpreted incorrectly by receiving system
- Incomplete or inaccurate data can impact patient care
- Negation can corrupt data
- Uncertainty can corrupt data
- Data integrity is a rapidly emerging area of HIT
- EHR
- May provide templates
- May require specialty specific templates
- E.g., details of prior surgeries for surgical subspecialty like orthopedics
- E.g., details of prior surgeries for surgical subspecialty like orthopedics
- Data may be codified at point of capture
- ICD-9-CM in most cases
- CPT in some instances
- SNOMED CT emerging
- ICD-9-CM in most cases
- May need to interact with an immunization module, and state registries
Review of Systems
- Inventory of current body systems
- Basically a screen following the HPI and PFSH to identify any other symptoms or patient identified findings that were not previously addressed in HPI
- Typically about 14 systems are used
- E.g., respiratory system, cardiovascular system, etc.
- Labor intensive
- Can lead to discovery of new information that could markedly impact diagnosis and care decisions
- Can also be a time intensive pursuit of information that is not relevant for that specific encounter
- Questions like “are you experiencing fatigue” are potentially going to yield a high percentage of positive responses that the provider may feel obligated to pursue….
- What is the provider thinking?
- Don’t miss anything relevant that could impact the care of the patient
- Patient care concerns
- Medicolegal concerns
- EHRs allow for default normals or cloning in ROS; common to see conflicts with HPI
- Get the information needed to justify the level of service (e.g., E&M code)
- Obtain and document the information as efficiently as possible, i.e., avoid having this take away from time spend in other areas of the encounter
- EHR considerations
- This can be a major workflow consideration
- Patients can enter the data
- Via kiosk, patient portal, personal health record, forms that can be scanned, etc.
- May need to translate medical information to something patients can consume
- MA or other ancillary staff can enter data provided by patients in writing, or taken directly from the patient
- Provider may take the ROS, but in general they review information entered by others
- Tendency for fraud relatively high in this section due to lack of interaction with HPI
- Common for finding in HPI to be in conflict with ROS
- Suggests fraud given that ROS defaults are common settings in EHRs
Physical Examination
- Typically includes
- Measured vital signs: height, weight, blood pressure, pulse, respirations
- Direct observations
- Findings on inspections
- Some test results may be included (e.g., smear of fluids obtained during procedure)
- Very specialty specific
- Often very much targeted based on patient’s presenting complaints
- “Full” physical could take 2 hours to complete
- Very data intensive for abnormal findings
- May have varying names
- Eponyms used frequently
- What is the provider thinking?
- Don’t miss something that could make a difference in the patient’s care
- Perform an adequate examination of the relevant organ system, and document it, to demonstrate the standard of care was met
- Document findings in organs system that were medically relevant to examine and captured for level of service determination
EHR Considerations for PE
- Massive amounts of content needed
- LArge templates
- Coding rules very complicated in E&M guidelines
- 1995 Guidelines nebulous
- 1997 Guidelines very specific and specialty appropriate – Used by most EHRs
- Ideal for computational assistance
- Frequently cited reason why providers purchase an EHR, i.e., to code visits more accurately
- Defaults for normal examinations are faster than dictating, however normal defaults have to be used cautiously..
- E.g., normal lower extremities documented in a patient who has a leg amputation
- The government is watching….
- Pulling forward a prior examination can be very efficient, but needs to be done with caution
- Providers need to review each character on the screen and take ownership
Labs, test results and procedures
- Often placed between physical and assessment
- May be in other locations
- Includes:
- Lab values obtained prior to or during the visit
- Radiology findings obtained prior to or during the visit
- Reports from other providers
- Procedures performed as part of the encounter
- E.g., draining fluid from a knee
Provider Considerations
- What is the provider thinking?
- Quickly assemble all relevant information to help with making the diagnosis and treatment plan
- Don’t miss something relevant that would be considered part of the standard of care
- Capture the fact that the information was reviewed for reimbursement (E&M) purposes
- Enter the information efficiently
EHR Considerations
- EHR may or may not have ability to import information of this nature into H&P note
- Often will not have ability to capture this as information relevant to E&M coding
- Point system is used when providers look at test results, look at actual images, etc.
- Need to be documented but can influence level of complexity of visit
- May not have ability to template the procedure, which are the most straightforward types of encounters to document in EHRs
Assessment
- Provider pulls together all relevant information and often creates a “differential diagnosis”
- Differential diagnosis is a weighted list of potential diagnoses
- Ranked based on
- Potential urgency
- Can the problem be treated
- What is the most likely underlying disease
- What else needs to be considered?
Provider Considerations
- What is the provider thinking?
- Demonstrate that all relevant diagnoses, based on clinical relevance, have been considered
- Demonstrate thought process behind conclusions
- Demonstrate level of knowledge to other providers (in particular for specialists)
- Demonstrate that the patient has been made fully informed regarding their condition
EHR Considerations
- Create tools that assist with diagnosis
- CDS
- List of alternative diagnoses to consider
- Access to knowledge resources
- Import diagnoses from other sections of the record
- Modify diagnoses
- Choose codes needed for billing of the encounter
- Justify complexity of visit through description of patient’s problem and potential risks to their future health, and the risk of interventions
Plan
- Includes
- Diagnostic tests
- Treatments
- Medications
- Surgeries
- Therapy
- Others
- Patient instructions
- Follow-up care
- Return visits
- Referrals to other providers
- What is the provider thinking?
- Prescribe medications where risk is offset by potential benefit
- Fully inform patient of potential risks
- Order tests that confirm diagnosis or eliminate diagnoses under consideration
- Refer patients as appropriate to other care provider such as specialists
- Follow a plan of care that would be consistent with the standard of care
- Patient education and counseling of particular importance
- Capture information that will be used for level of service (E&M)
EHR Considerations
- Interact with data entered in other sections of record to assist provider with management
- CDS (e.g., medication contraindications)
- Standards of care for specific conditions
- E.g., correct antibiotic to use
- Capture what was discussed with the patient
- Macros, templates, free text or VR often used
- Present provider with coding summary, including level of service (E&M) coding assistance tools
- Allow provider to close note and send relevant information to a billing tool.
Author contact information
Michael Stearns, MD
HIT Consultant
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